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Phillip Berman is the president of The Multihull Company and a lifetime catamaran sailor and racer. He grew up racing Hobie Cats in California in the late 1960's and published his first book on catamaran racing at the age of seventeen. Called MULTIHULL RACING THE HOBIE CATS, it was published by Sea ...more
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~ Jeff and Tracey.
Fountaine Pajot
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Multihull Quarterly Publisher George Day discusses the
launch of a new catamaran brand with industry veteran Phillip Berman, New
Zealand designer Roger Hill, and Chinese builder Lee Xiangong.
George Day (GD):
Phil, with factories closing all over the world in the yacht industry as a
result of the Global Financial Crisis, why have you decided to go into boat
building?
Phillip Berman (PB): It’s always an act of madness to build boats
I suppose. But I’ve been in the industry
long enough to know the primary reason brands and builders fail stems for their
lack of understanding of the consumer or failure to deliver a quality product. If
you design the wrong boat, or build it improperly, or are forced to sell it for
an uncompetitive price, you will fail very quickly in the marine industry. As
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e annually sell about 50 to 60 brokerage catamarans at The Multihull Company
our brokerage team have a very good sense of the market, how it breaks down in
various segments, and the range of objections buyers have about different
models. I can assure you it’s foolhardy to try to compete with Lagoon,
Fountaine Pajot or Robertson and Caine in the Comfort Cat market. Balance
Catamarans are focused on a totally different clientele and therefore built in
a very different fashion.
GD: Why is that
Phil?
PB: Because you
have to scale your production and build process to achieve the price point
buyers can afford for the type of boat they desire. The big production
companies must build in a highly automated fashion to minimize labor hours. It
also means they must use cheaper materials in the fabrication of their builds. That
does not mean to say any of these major brands are “cheap,” but the fact is,
when you are focused on a consumer who does not care deeply about performance,
and is in fact focused primarily on interior volume and price, there is no reason
to build a boat with lighter and more costly materials. Or to build a boat that
is seldom meant to sail in nasty weather far from a port of refuge. At Balance
we must spend far more on materials and labor hours because we are building a blue
water sailing catamaran, not a motor-sailor for short jaunts around the
protected waters of the Caribbean.
Roger Hill (RH):
In the end, my goal is to design our hulls as narrow as we can after factoring
in the volumes we want inside the boat and the materials we are using. If Phil and
Lee were not building the Balance Cats with foam cores, and epoxy foam bulkheads
and floors, and Lee was not prepared to triple the labor hours required to
construct the boats for Balance, I’d have to design the hulls considerably
wider and of course that would come at a significant cost to performance.
Lee Xiangong (LX):
I’ve built over 50 of Roger’s power cats in China, and some of them are
designed to travel at over 45 knots. This sort of build requires the most
careful engineering and laminate schedules and of course the most costly
fabrication materials. The great advantage we have at our factory in China is
we can afford to use these more costly materials and spend many more man hours
on our builds without pricing the Balance catamarans out of the market. In
fact, all of us are very confident we are producing the highest quality
performance cruising cat for the money in the world. We see no way at all the
French can possibly compete with us in the same price points without either
using cheaper materials, or finishing their boats inside to a far lower
standard.
RH: It’s a very
interesting challenge when designing and building a blue water performance cat.
On the one hand you are deeply focused on weight – how and where can we shave
weight without compromising strength and sea worthiness? If you error too far toward the light side,
in the wrong places, it is easy enough to create a catamaran that feels like a
noodle when pushing into stiff seas. I am not going to comment here on some of
the specific production cats I’ve sailed so as not to upset anyone, but what I
see
are two extremes – they are either very heavy, balsa core boats with marine
plywood bulkheads that hold their shape well enough in a big sea, but sail very
slowly, or they are built too lightly and cheaply and therefore noodle and creak
when driven into large seas. I am very sure we could build the Balance Cats even
lighter than we do, using reduced laminate schedules, but I use as my
engineering criteria a hard sail from Auckland to Tasmania. If all hell breaks
loose we want the Balance to be able to press against stiff seas without coming
apart.
GD: Lee, China
often gets a bad rap on quality? What
do you say about that?
LX: Generalizations
about quality from country to country are pretty irrational, as if all French
boats hold something in common, or all South African boats, etc. I am told that
Gunboat’s used to be built in South Africa, and now they are building their
bigger ones here in China. But South Africa also has turned out some very
cheap, low quality builds, etc. There are many high quality yachts built here
in China, and many very poorly built ones. Here in the Juhai area we have a range
of very high end builders. I will not
mention the builders I hold less respect for.
PB: One of my
hobbies is cycling and my “Italian” carbon bike was made right here in China. I
have since learned nearly every high-end carbon bike is made in China. Along
with our I Phones, computers, etc. Here in China you can get any level of
quality you want. We could very
certainly produce our boats for far less than we do if we wished to lower our
build standards and finish. In fact, if we were not building a blue water
performance boat we could easily undersell the French and South African production
builders in the Comfort Cat market as our material costs would go way down and
our labor hours would be chopped by many thousands. But at Balance we are
hard-focused on quality, performance, durability. All my years in boating and yacht sales have
taught me that the devil is in the details and that means the engineering,
design and fabrication have to be very exacting.
GD: Lee, what is
your background in building? What have
you learned about deploying the Chinese workforce?
I took my BSC in Shipbuilding Engineering from Huazhong
University of Science and Technology. I’ve been involved in many of China’s
highest technology sailboat projects, including the 68 foot Clipper
Round-the-World Yachts. My expertise is in mold making, production scheduling,
and quality control. For the past few years I oversaw the construction of about
fifty Roger Hill designed Power Cats for Arrow Cat Marine. What I have learned about deploying the
Chinese workforce is that everything has to be heavily engineered and the
renderings very clear, which is why I trained in 3D modeling and CNC
operations. You can achieve the highest levels of quality in China so long as
you are very clear and precise with your workers on what you are trying to
achieve. It is very helpful that with
the Balance Catamaran we are working again with Roger Hill, as his engineering
is careful and we have a good working relationship based on our experience
together.
GD: Why Balance
Catamarans Phil? Do you have a problem
with what you call Comfort production cats?
PB: No, not at all. In fact if I had to take a
charter holiday with a big family in the BVI I’d get the biggest cat I could
find for the least amount of money – and that, in fact, is what drives the charter
market and drives the major production builders - as well it should. The “big
box” end of the market will always represent 85% of the catamarans
built. And I
can assure you, at The Multihull Company, the sale of such cats will always remain
a huge part of our daily business in brokerage. For folks who plan to sail
around the Caribbean, or the Bahamas, and do very little passage making these
boats are just fine and represent good value for a wide range of buyers. I know
as a yacht broker that the Balance line we are building is for a very limited
few. This project is more or less a labor of love for me, because I am just
building the sort of boat I would want for myself, and working with the team I
have put together whom I feel confident will build that boat.
GD: I hear a lot
of people say, who needs performance? I
am retired, what difference does it make if I average 6 knots or 9 knots?
PB: It really starts
to mean something for the more limited market of buyers who are real
adventurers, or consistent passage makers. Performance means the ability to
sail well on all points of sail, the ability to sail away from bad weather and
the reduction of exposure to it. A 15% to 25% percent jump in performance
underway is huge if you are passage making. At the boat show docks people are
focused on space and the Corian counter tops, this I know all too well, but
eventually everyone learns these cats are meant to move through the water –
under sail and power, and how swiftly they do it, and how comfortably, is
vitally important if they intend to really go places. If the intention is to
mostly park the boat it makes total sense to focus on the cheapest and most spacious
options you can find. While it may be slow and uncomfortable underway, or less
stout for the serious seas one might encounter when venturing far afield, it
isn’t underway very often so that’s an acceptable trade off.
That said, and this is how I came upon our brand name, a
Balance ought to be struck between comfort at anchor and safety and performance
underway for those who really want to sail. I just truly feel the Balance has
largely been lost by the major production builders because they must sell over
50% of their production directly into charter programs. They start with charter
needs at the top when designing their boats. A very telling fact is that in the
mid-90’s a 47 foot cat carried 27 hp motors, in the mid-2000’s 40 hp motors,
and now they are often carrying 75 hp motors. If it takes a 75 hp motor to push
a 45 foot cat you know you have a heavy, high windage yacht with very wide
hulls to push through the water. And to be bluntly honest I think the current
crop of cats with massive flat windows or forward porches are potentially
dangerous in large seas. I know of a few cats with large forward facing
vertical windows that have been hit with big breakers and broke.
RH: I would add
that in my experience there is a limited class of people who just frankly love
to sail, care how their boat sails, and get enormous satisfaction and pride
from really sailing. So many of the cats today I see are really hybrid trawlers
or motor sailors. As Phil says, when you see builders offering 75 HP Turbo
engines on 44 foot cats you know you’ve got a motor sailor. Nothing wrong with
that, by the way, I’ve designed and built a range of powercats and motorsailors,
but such boats are not satisfying to passionate sailors. And if you care at all
about the planet, these are not Green boats!
As one of Phil’s brokers, Derek Escher once noted, the greenest boat is
a sailboat – a real sailboat. Turning on the engines is a last resort. So the
Balance is a bit more of purist’s boat, although we feel we have kept enough
comfort in her to satisfy most cruising couples.
GD: Phil, you
were heavily involved with the Dolphin brand and globally distributed that
brand for many years. What happened to Dolphin?
And why now Balance? The boats
seem to have many similarities.
PB: We had a very
ideal and special situation with Dolphin that began in 2003, when I partnered
with Philipe Pouvreau and the Pimenta family. The boat came along at the right
time, we had the perfect team to build them, and the Brazilian currency and
labor market at the time were favorable to build such a high labor hour
boat. We had an excellent run, selling
about 24 of them from 2003 to 2007, but each and every year of our production
the dollar slid to the Brazilian Reles. Our costs just kept getting higher and
higher and we had to raise the price of the boat massively in a short period of
time. When the global financial crisis came Dolphin was hit by the perfect
storm – a declining buyer pool and a far more costly product. In so many respects,
the Balance project is meant to replace the fantastic experience we had
building the Dolphin brand – limited production, high labor hour boats, with
good performance for a small but passionate buying pool.
GD: How do
Dolphins and these smaller, boutique brands fare on the resale market?
PB:
Interestingly, the Dolphin has held up better on resale than just about any
other cat that was sold new during her build tenure. Dolphin’s and Catana’s
have held up nicely in resale value and I believe this is so simply because
when it is time for a seller to sell they are not competing with the resale of
so many phased out charter boats, or an oversupply of the same model created by
the larger production builders. I feel confident it will be so as well for our
Balance cats. Anytime you produce a quality product with a limited supply your
resale prospects will remain strong. I have seen this occur with the Antares,
the former PDQ, with the Dolphin, and with the older Catana’s and Gunboats.
GD: Roger, why
the daggerboards with the small mini keels?
RH: The mini
keels are quite shallow and meant to protect the sail-drive legs and rudders if
the boat were to strike a log or something underway. Also, the mini keels
protect the hulls if the boat is grounded in shallow water. We also designed
the mini-keels so that the boat can rest nicely bows down on a beach. The dual
daggerboards, of course, are to make certain the Balance points at a high angle
into the wind with minimal side-slipping and infinitely less drag while sailing
off the wind. Phil and I think this is the right compromise for the voyaging
sailor. It strikes a Balance between protection, utility, safety and
performance. Again, Phil and I did not set about to create a racing cat here
but a cat that is safe, comfortable, and yet turns a very nice speed on all
points of sail.
GD: Lee, how many
labor hours will go into a Balance Cat?
LX: The number
will vary a good deal because our boats are more customized than others and our
buyers pretty sophisticated, demanding a range of different fit-outs. But if
you remove the time associated with installation of special gear, or cabin and
salon modifications, each 421 will take about 17,000 labor hours to build, the
450 another 2,000. All of our drawers
and cabinets are built with our own CNC router, and cored foam sandwhich, so
the level of cabinetry we offer is considerably more costly and finished than
what I have seen from the production builders in France and South Africa. I do not think they can build cabinets to the
standard we do with their labor rates. Also, we are installing pre-preg epoxy
bulkheads, using vinylester resin, infusing a great deal, foam core
floorboards, etc. We also take an enormous amount of time on our wiring and
systems fit out.
GD: Phil, how
many boats do you intend to build each year?
PB: We are
organized at present to build no more than six Balance 421 and 450’s in our
first year and we may just stick with that number. We could easily ramp up to
do 10, but we’ll never build more than that on an annual basis. We would much
rather have fewer satisfied customers than grow to a scale that becomes
unwieldly. This way we can carefully manage each sale, each customer,
ourselves, offering a far higher level of customer care and intimacy, just as
we did with Dolphin.
GD: What are your
plans for larger boats?
PB: We have
entered into a partnership with a builder in South Africa to build a Sixty
footer on a very limited custom basis, the Balance 601. We are in the design phase
now for a 48 and 52 but have yet to settle on the details of where she will be
built.
GD: So when can
we see one?
PB: We have one
421 and one 450 under build now. The plan is to ship a 450 over to the U.S. for
the Annapolis Boat Show in October 2013. But anyone is welcome to visit our
factory in China to see the boats under build. We are very proud of the product
and know our boats will stand up to the highest level of scrutiny. I think I’ve
assembled an amazing team of experts for this project and am excited, to say
the least.
GD: Thanks a lot
Phil, Roger, and Lee. We look forward to seeing the Balance 450 at Annapolis in
2013.
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These are stand up people, who make a stand up product. I would buy from them again in a heartbeat.
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~ Jay Clark, Dolphin 460
"Sugar Shack"
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I just wanted you to know that your level of service and the high degree of customer satisfaction have made owning my Dolphin a great experience.
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~ Daniel Zlotnick, Dolphin
"Sugar Shack"